THE GOBLE FAMILY NEWSLETTER

By Evelyn Goble Steen

Volume 6, Issue 1, March 1999

Copyright (c) 1999 by Evelyn Goble Steen all rights reserved.

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The Goble Family Association is proud to begin its 3rd year of sponsorship of the Goble Family Newsletter. Although our primary interest has been the descendants of Thomas Goble (1590/91-1657) of West Sussex, England and the Massachusetts Bay Colony we continue to welcome all who are interested in the history of the Goble name.

The major Goble database currently contains over 18,300 names, while additional Goble databases contain unconnected Gobles, German lines, additional English and Irish lines. These now bring our name totals well over 30,000 descendants. Each of our databases grow weekly as connections are made.

If you would like to provide a story about one of your ancestors to be published in this newsletter or on the homepage, or if you have a question for me or our readers, please send them to: Evelyn Goble Steen, 800 North Highlands Drive, #G, Harrisburg, PA 17111 or phone (717) 541-9369, e-mail: GobleNews@aol.com

Note: The number in parenthesis within the name of an individual indicates the generation of descendant in America in the Thomas (1) Goble tree.


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PLEASE KEEP US INFORMED OF ANY ADDRESS CHANGES


IRISH GOBLES

Among the many Goble lines of ancestors there are several known Irish immigrants. One such line begins with Hezekiah W. Goble who was born in 1832 in Ireland. He came to America in the early 1850s. He married Mary Managan in either Ireland or America. Hezekiah was a farmer and settled in Rio, Orange County, New York (north of Port Jarvis) in the town of Deerpark where he died on April 08, 1897. Hezekiah and Mary had 7 children: Norman, William, George, Edward, Frank, Mary C. and Ella M Goble.

There is another line, which may be the same line as above, but with a few differences. It begins with Hozebeule Goble who was born in Ireland between 1830 and 1840. He probably immigrated to America in the 1850s. His wife's name is unknown. He had a son, named William J. Goble, born in Rio, Orange County, New York in 1861. William married Ida Maria Murry in 1886. Ida Maria was born 1863 in Callicon, New York. William and Ida Maria had 7 children: Glen Edward, Edna, Evelyn, Felne, Marie, Clarence and Raymond Goble.

A third line begins with a George Goble, born about 1787 in Ireland. He had a son George, born about 1820 and both were ship's carpenters. The younger George was also a builder according to census records dated June 25, 1860 from Oswego County, New York. A third generation George W. Goble was born in New York about 1845.

If you have any information on any of these lines or have questions regarding sources or contributors, please contact Evelyn Goble Steen, 800 N. Highlands Dr. #G, Harrisburg, PA 17111 or GobleNews@aol.com.


NEW DISCOVERIES

In Volume 4, Issue 3, September 1997 of the Goble Family Newsletter we ran a story about the comedian, Lonesome George Gobel. We're always wondering how other Gobles are related to our many different trees. Thanks to Terence T. Quirke, Ph.D., CG, we now have an answer about the ancestry of the famous comedian. Terence retrieved the death certificate of George. His father was Herman Goebel from Austria and his mother was Lillian MacDonald born in Illinois. George was born May 20, 1919 in Chicago, Illinois and married Alice Humecki. They had a son, Gregg Gobel. George served in the military during World War II from 1944-1945. In about 1954 he moved his family to California where he lived until his death of heart disease on February 24, 1991 in Encino Hospital, Los Angeles Co., Encino, CA.

During his career he was a radio actor; a comedian; hosted his own variety show (The George Gobel Show); was a country singer; a television, movie, and stage actor; was a panelist on game shows; and produced Leave It to Beaver. He was nicknamed "Little Georgie Gobel" and later "Lonesome George." He stared in Harper Valley PTA as Mayor Otis Harper Jr. He appeared on the Eddie Fisher Show and was a regular on Hollywood Squares. His favorite saying was "Well I'll be a dirty bird."


OBITUARIES

Allen Lee (10) Goble died December 19, 1998 in Victorville, California. He was born December 17, 1930 in Mendota, Illinois, the son of James Clifford (9) Goble and Gertrude Wixom. He married Beverly Ann Inn October 2, 1953 in Highland Park, California who survives him. Also surviving are daughters: Joyce Ann (Goble) Kimble and Denise Lee (Goble) Floyd, sons: Curtis Jon Goble, and Brian Allen Goble. Seven grandchildren: Evan Uriah Kimble, Cassandra Lynn Kimble, Chad Allen Floyd, Cory Alfred Floyd, Corrin Ashlee Floyd, Julianne Leah Goble, Blake Allen Goble. A brother, Elliott Ray (10) Goble of Paw Paw, Illinois. Two sisters preceded him in death, Elmora Bertha Goble and Joy Ann (Goble) McInerney.*1

Letha Magdalene Goble Feldman died September 13, 1998 at age 87. She was the daughter of John Thomas Goble and Nina Bell Albertson. She leaves her husband, David Feldman, and a brother Herman John Goble who was featured in our December 1998 issue as the Goble Santa.

Letha Marlene Goble Horn died June 5, 1998 of cancer at the Hospice House in Jacksonville, Florida. She was born Feb 24, 1937 in Battle Creek, Michigan to Herman John Goble and Nellie J. Fales. Letha was 61 years old. Her husband, Clifford Lee Horn, 4 children and 5 grandchildren survive. Children are Dianna Lynn Filkins, Sheri Lee Prewoznik, Michael Adam Horn and Elizabeth Susan Paul. Her father and stepmother, Herman John and Carol Sue Norris Goble were with her when she died. *2


DEAR ANCESTOR POEM


Your tombstone stands among the rest;

Neglected and alone.

The name and date are chiseled out

On the faded, mossy stone.

It reaches out to all who care

It is too late to mourn.

You did not know that I exist

You died and I was born.

Yet each of us are cells of you

In flesh, in blood, in bone.

Our heart contracts and beats a pulse

Entirely not our own.

Dear Ancestor, the place you filled

One hundred years ago

Spreads out among the ones you left

Who would have loved you so.

I wonder if you lived and loved,

I wonder if you knew

That someday I would find this spot,

And come to visit you.

Author Unknown *3


UPDATE OF THE GOBLE FAMILY IN AMERICA

Many of you know, and some of you own, the book I published in 1996 entitled "The Goble Family in America, Descendants of Stephen Goble of the Revolutionary War, Descended from Thomas Goble of Sussex England and Charlestown Massachusetts." I am in the process of preparing an Addendum to bring the publication up to date. It's amazing how much new information has been discovered since the book went out. As soon as I have completed the Addendum I will let you know.


FAMILY TREE MAKER

I recently heard from Addison Goble regarding an article in the Family Tree Maker magazine, Winter 1999 edition, page 8, which contained a testimonial from Karen and Donald Schwartz. The comments mention our homepage and our ability to connect people with their cousins. Thank you Karen and Donald for mentioning us!

A follow-up note - PLEASE be careful, when submitting information to Family Tree Maker and World Family Tree. Edit out dates and personal information of your living cousins. Protect them from possible unethical use of private information.


FIRE DESTROYS A HISTORIC GOBLE LANDMARK

Hiram Edwin (8) Goble was one of four Goble brothers who founded Gobleville, Michigan in 1867. He and his wife, Susan Aurelia Perry, moved to Michigan in 1861 where they purchased 600 acres of what later became Gobleville. They had 8 children, 5 of whom survived and were raised in the house they built. Their home has been a major landmark of the town since 1870.

PHOTO of Hiram Edwin Goble

PHOTO of Susan Aurelia Perry

Hiram was the son of Nathaniel (7) Goble and Elizabeth "Betsey" Hinchey. His ancestry is Eliel (6) Goble, Ezekiel (5) Goble, Jonas (4) Goble, Daniel/David (3) Goble, Daniel (2) Goble, Thomas (1), Willmi (William) Goble. In September the local newspaper printed this article

PHOTO of House

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FIRE HITS HISTORIC GOBLES HOME

The home of one of the city of Gobles' founders was damaged by fire Tuesday night (this was in September 1998).

Units from Oshtemo, Bloomingdale, Paw Paw and the Gobles-Pine Grove fire departments battled the blaze in the historic home at the northwest corner of Glover and Exchange streets.

Jim Ray, assistant chief for the Goble-Pine Grove Fire Department, said there was fire in the attic when crews arrived about 8 p.m. No one was hurt, he said, and the fire remains under investigation.

The house has been divided into five apartment units. Manager Debra Fricke said that four units were occupied.

Leon Price, who owned the house for 30 years, said it was the home of Hiram and Susan Goble.

Hiram Goble was one of four Goble brothers credited with establishing the town in 1867. It was originally known as Gobleville.

According to Price, the woodframe, two-story home was 135 years old and had 26 rooms. Price said he sold it seven years ago.

By Rod Smith, Special to the Gazette.

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The article was provided by Levern and Rachel Goble. They traveled through Gobles on their way home after the Goble reunion held in Missouri this past September 6th. They saw the house after the fire and said "it is badly damaged and will be destroyed."

Too often I am reporting to you on another destruction of Goble history. I believe it is very important to future generations that we document these old structures and try, in whatever way we can, to preserve them. It is sad to see yet another Goble landmark vanish.


TRACING OUR PIONEERING ROOTS

It's been a while since I provided a listing of Goble Landmarks! If you are aware of others, please let us know.


GOBLE BOY STRUCK BY LIGHTING *4

Roy "Scott" (11) Goble was born October 30, 1914 in Walulla, Kansas. He is the oldest son, second child of Edgar Allen (10) Goble and Lena Luella Scott.

PHOTO of Roy Scott Goble

When Scott was 9 years old he was struck by lighting while in the front yard of the family home at the Fairmount Orchard in Kansas. He was returning from fishing with his brother Larmon, when a storm blew up. He had left his fishing poles down by the gate and went back for them. He was knocked unconscious by the lighting. His mother laid him in the fruit cellar for safety and sent for the doctor. Scott was comatose for 3 days. There were three newspaper articles: The first one said, "GOBLE BOY STRUCK BY LIGHTING, NOT EXPECTED TO LIVE;" the second headline: "BOY STRUCK BY LIGHTING STILL HOLDING ON;" the third article "SCOTT GOBLE, HIT BY BOLT SATURDAY, ON WAY TO HEALTH." The Following is a retyped newspaper article. *5

Complete Recovery of Lad Struck by Lighting During Terrific Storm is Expected.

IN YARD WHEN FLASH CAME

Remained Unconscious From Saturday Afternoon Until Sunday Evening - Left His Bed Yesterday Afternoon.

You needn't be afraid of lighting is the conclusion of Scott Goble, 9 years old, son of Mr. and Mrs. E. A. Goble, Wallula. Scott knows. His conclusion is that there never will be time enough to be afraid.

Scott, playing in the yard at his home last Saturday during a terrific storm was struck down by a bolt. He was carried to the house unconscious. Dr. A. J. Smith was called and rendered medical attention. Scott regained consciousness Sunday (actually Tuesday) evening and yesterday afternoon had so far regained his strength to leave his bed.

Hope for his complete recovery is entertained.

A rooster in the yard near where Scott was playing when struck was killed by the same bolt.

Scott Goble is now 84 years old, travels between Texas and Kansas and is an active Baptist Preacher having honored us in this regard during the 1998 Goble reunion.


PHOTO GALLERY ON THE HOMEPAGE!

A sampling of some of the family photographs available on our homepage. If you have a favorite photograph you would like to contribute you may send it to GobleNews@aol.com as either an JPEG or GIF attachment.

Abraham Lincoln (9) Goble (1860-1920), Jasper Frederick (9) Goble (1858-1933) and Perry "Ed" (9) Goble (1869-1955) were 3 of the 7 children born to Joseph (8) Goble and Catharine (Caty) Huff of Kosciusko Co., IN.

Warren (8) Goble (1827-1899) was one of the four Goble brothers who helped to establish and build Gobleville, Indiana.

Mary Ann Leach (1848-1938) was the wife of John J. Goble (1836-1909). John was the son of Cornelius Goble, Jr. and Sallie/Sara Johnson. Mary and John lived and raised their family of 8 children in Gilmer, Co., Georgia. They are from the Southern Goble tree.


OUR SUSSEX ROOTS

The discovery of our ancestry continues to be a rewarding and interesting endeavor. The English line of GOBLE, had its roots in West Sussex, England. I believe we will eventually trace our heritage beyond Willmi (William) Goble of Westergate. The discovery of the baptismal records of Thomas (1) Goble and his marriage record to Alice Brookman was something researchers had been hoping to discover for many years. Again, we must thank Terence T. Quirke, Ph.D., CG, for his expertise and diligence. Armed with our new information the focus of our English research should begin in Westergate, Aldingbourne and surrounding West Sussex.

The Church of St Mary, The Virgin, Burpham, West Sussex12th Century Norman Church

The ancient church of Burpham is believed to be nearly 900 years old. Having been erected on ground where a Roman Basilica once stood in about 300 AD The first record of transfer occurred in the year 1226 when Manasser d'Aguillion gave the Church to the Dean and Chapter of Chichester. The family of le Covert held the Manor until about 1690. Thomas Country transferred it to Moody Hester, of Arundel whose heirs alienated it in 1724 to Richard Holmes, whose daughter carried it in dower to John Goble of Petworth, after which it descended to their son, John Holmes Goble who died in 1815. His widow, Mary Magdalene, sold it to the Duke of Norfolk. The stones in the floor of the chancel, between the choir stalls are of Elizabeth Holmes Goble (died 1777) and her son James Holmes Goble (died 3 November 1814).*6 The stones are there today and with patience can still be read.

This magnificent old church was written about in 1932 by William J. Roberts, who produced The Pocket Cathedral Guide entitled "Burpham and its Ancient Church". On page 24 of this guide is the following:

"The chancel windows have already been described but it has interest by reason of the evidence of alterations visible at the eastern end - possibly the relic of a heightening of the roof centuries ago - and by the remains of a doorway visible on the south wall. This is believed to have been pierced by a member of the Goble family to save him walking the few steps farther to the west door. He was known as Squire Goble and may have objected to using the door of the common people. It this be so, his entry direct into the chancel, possibly after service had commenced, must have been a disturbing though pompous, performance."


THE OTHER HALF

Although the main focus of our research is the history of Goble ancestors and descendants, we must not forget the other half. We are a product of all our ancestors. To determine how many lines of your ancestry there are start with yourself and go back in time, you are 1; you have 2 parents, 4 grandparents, 8 great-grandparents; then in successive generations, there are 16, 32, 64, 128, 256, 512, etc. This is a geometric progression with the ratio of 2. I am a 12th generation Goble in America. If I go back 12 generations I should have 2048 direct ancestors.

There are many very interesting histories in our past. Some of the most prominent names in the first 5 generations of Goble descendancy are: Brookman, Brewer, Houghton, Dana, Shepard, Dudley, Town, Cook, Doud, Peck, Cory, Conger, Fairchild, Roy, Brookfield, La Follette and Wisner.

The Cory family origin is believed to be Pictish, or Scandinavian. The name was taken from Cori, derived from the Keltin word Koria, or Coria, meaning the "core," or heart, the source of activity. The word corri or correi is Gaelic, signifying a bowl shaped hollow on a hillside where game usually lies. The Cory family name is an ancient one, whatever its origin, probably dating back to the days of William the Conqueror. *7

John Cory I (1611 - 1684) was the first of this Cory line to come to America in about 1637. He is believed to have lived in Rhode Island, Massachusetts and Connecticut prior to going to Southold Long Island, New York with Reverend John Youngs. While in Connecticut he married Ann Salmon, daughter of William Salmon, on July 2, 1638. John and Ann had seven children. They lived in Southold the rest of their lives. John Cory I was a founding member of the First Presbyterian Church, founded at Southold in 1640 and he was a Whale Commissioner in 1644. John Cory was descended from the Corys of Breamerton Hall, Norwich England. *8 His father being Sir Thomas Cory, Chief Prothotory in the Queen's Temple who was Knighted on March 18, 1639, during the reign of King Charles I. *9 Sir Thomas Cory's father was Sir John Cory of Breamerton Hall whom the Cory Coat of Arms was bestowed upon in 1612 by King James I.

While in the colonies John Cory I worked as a weaver. He was however a wealthy man for the times and left considerable resources to his family. Their first son was John Cory II, born September 1639 in Southold, New York. John Cory II was a Farmer and a merchant. He moved to Huntington, Long Island about 1660. He bought a lot at Huntington for a home and was granted land there in 1668, 1681 and 1682. He was at one time one of the owners of nine farms. He was a Quaker and a man of considerable importance in Huntington being town clerk, arbitrator and recorder. John married Mary Cornish, daughter of Thomas Cornish and Mary Stone on December 15, 1667 in Stamford, Connecticut. John and Mary had eight children. *10

Abraham Cory I was born October 28, 1683 and may have been the youngest of John and Mary's children. Abraham married Alice Braddock in 1706 and they had six children. The eldest son was Abraham Cory II.

Abraham Cory II was born about 1709 in Hanover, Essex County, New Jersey to Abraham and Alice (Braddock) Cory I. He married Frances (maiden name is unknown) in about 1730 and they had three children. Their second child was Rhoda Cory, born about 1735. Rhoda married Stephen (5) Goble in about 1753 and they had seven children: Mary, Stephen, Abraham, Rhoda, Abigail, William and Susanna. They moved from Morristown, New Jersey to Washington County, Pennsylvania before 1790. Hence our Goble-Cory connection!

CORY COAT OF ARMS

Description: Sable, on a chevron, between three griffins heads, erased or as many estioles, gules.

Crest: Out of a ducal cornet, a griffin's head between two wings or, each wing charged with three estioles, on pale, gules.

Motto: "forti Tene Manu" meaning "Hold with a firm hand."

CORY ANCESTOR TREE

Stephen (5), Daniel (4), Daniel/David (3), Daniel (2), Thomas (1), Willmi (William) (0) Goble


SOURCING YOUR GENEALOGY RESEARCH

I know I have harped on this subject many times before, but I believe it can't be stressed enough.

One of the first commandments of genealogy is to thoroughly document the sources of your family information. Sometimes when beginning to do genealogy we get so excited to find information that we don't identify where we found it. This is always regretted later when someone asks - "Are you sure?"

Previous family historians, although well meaning, dedicated and hard working, failed to provide documentation and adequate sources for many of their conclusions. In other cases conclusions were not supported with logical rationale.

With the technological advancements in record retrieval available to us today and the improvements in communication, many genealogists, amateur and professional, have been able to reveal discrepancies and solve long-standing mysteries of the family's past. In order to prevent the same problem from reoccurring for our future generations we must be diligent in annotating and documenting our sources.

Identify your sources! Sources can be many different things. Family Bible records, inscriptions on photographs, legal documents such as birth certificates, marriage licenses, death certificates, deeds, court records, military records, historical references, such as County Atlas's, community histories, newspaper articles. Personal knowledge, references from relatives, memories, obituaries and gravestones are also good sources. Just don't forget to write it down. Future genealogists will thank you.


GOBLE ASSOCIATION MEMBERSHIP

Membership brochures were mailed last December. If you would like additional brochures or membership forms for additional prospective members, please let me know. Response has been very good this year and many members have both requested the free e-mail version of this newsletter and made contributions to the Association. This will enable us to provide the newsletter to many of the elderly who are unable to pay and to libraries, genealogy and history societies. Thank you all!

I have made a contribution in the name of the Goble Association to RootsWeb on the internet. By becoming a sponsor of RootsWeb we are entitled to a listing board for queries, an obituary board and mailing list for Goble research, which will help us make contact with even more of our cousins. The cost was $12 and was paid out of Association funds. If this proves beneficial we can renew each year. If you are on the internet and would like to subscribe to the list send an e-mail message to GOBLE-L-request@rootsweb.com that contains the word "subscribe" and nothing else.


PERSONAL NOTE

Winter is nearly over and we are ready for spring! I've heard from many of you over the past few months regarding the unusual weather and am glad no one has been seriously affected. It will be wonderful to see the flowers blooming again.

I made an energetic effort to answer the snail mail in January, but since that surge I have again fallen behind. At least I believe I have answered letters received last June. I'll be working on July here very soon.

Thank you all for the research information, letters, photographs and stories. It's unbelievable, at times, how very interested our family is in our history. I appreciate all the input and future generations will too. We will need to plan a get together soon to discuss the future of the records. I currently have enough for a small library and would like to find a way to make all this material available to those searching for their roots.

If anyone has a story to tell for the June newsletter, send it to me! (800 N. Highlands Dr. #G, Harrisburg, PA 17111)

Love, Evelyn


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